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The reason indie's keep doing so bad, they need to make smellar scale games first then go for the MMO's. Thats there first mistake right there.I see many rookie mistakes by indies, we will never see an AAA make a snadbox, sandbox games have to small of a following, AAA's need to make millions and lets face it , more gamers like theme park games, most indies make sand boxs not for the money, its because they love them.So before people bash sandbox get your facts straight, I been in the buisness long enough to know. Anyways, drama sucks. The reason indie's keep doing so bad, they need to make smellar scale games first then go for the MMO's. Thats there first mistake right there.I see many rookie mistakes by indies, we will never see an AAA make a snadbox, sandbox games have to small of a following, AAA's need to make millions and lets face it , more gamers like theme park games, most indies make sand boxs not for the money, its because they love them.So before people bash sandbox get your facts straight, I been in the buisness long enough to know. Anyways, drama sucks.

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